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deadly storms, massive delays across the country at our airports. we'll have details that will impact your friday and your weekend. new information today about that rutgers university student who committed suicide after his roommate allegedly broadcast a sexual incounter on the web. the chief of staff bolts for chicago and the start of a major west wing makeover. snooki smackdown. the cast member off the show because of that smackdown. good friday morning, i'm chris jansing live from msnbc world headquarters in new york. it is a critical time for the obama white house and the
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president's chief of staff, rahm emanuel, is leaving. in about an hour, president obama will make that announcement official. the man who's been his chief adviser and chief hatchet man for the past 21 months leaving to run for mayor of chicago. emanuel will be replaced by peter rouse, the president's long-time confidant whose demeanor is more like obama himself. calmer, quieter. christina belatoni senior reporter with talking points memo. good morning to both of you. >> good morning, chris. >> he didn't get the nickname for nothing. he had this take no prisoners type of attitude. he sent a dead fish to someone he was unhappy with when he got some bad news. david, what do you think this really means for the white house and what does this mean for the american people? >> liberals really don't like rahm emanuel and they see him as the fellow who's pushed obama to
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negotiate more than he ought to have with the republicans who are leading towards the tea party. but i don't blame a horse for taking it where the rider wants it to go. ultimately, the major strategic decisions are made by the president and if anything rahm emanuel, even though he disagree would the president in certain matters, he still carried out the president's strategy legislatively. we're about to enter a period, i think, after the november election where there will not be maneuvering going on. it will be all-out political war fare between the two sides and the white house will go through a major readjustment in deciding what type of presidency obama wants to have. >> this is interesting, christina. i love that analogy. the horse and the rider. but what difference will it really make and if we make the assumption that there will be a change in at least the house, potentially in the senate, but at least in the house, is rouse the guy if this is going to be a
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even more incendiary environment, which is always sort of hard to believe. >> it's a great question. it's really undetermined at this point whether the house is going to turn over to the republicans, but rouse is known as working very well with the senate. president obama, obviously, has shown a lot of deference to the senate in his legislative strategy in the last two years and that may not change. the senate could be the key negotiating point if the house is controlled by republicans and the senate remains in democratic hands. rouse was called the 101st senator back in the day when he worked for tom daschle because he had good relations with ev y everyoever everyone and he knows everyone within the halls of the congress. having a fairly tense relationship with congress. >> christina, david, thank you, both. now, the president will talk about rahm emanuel's departure about an hour from now. and you will watch it live right here on msnbc. let's talk about those
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torrential rains and inflooding that killed five people in north carolina and still coming down in a big swath of the northeast. travel delays expected across the country because some of the nation's busiest airports in new york and boston, frankly, are a mess. check out how the massive rain storm washed out roads and flooded homes in virginia. now, the worst rain hits parts of north carolina. a foot of water came down in just six hours. in washington county, north carolina, a couple and two of their children died when their cheap hydroplaned, hit another car and ended up in a canal. the remnants of tropical storm nicole soaked commuters in maryland and left a lot of people panicked about the flash flood. >> the water coming above the docks and above the curbs and we're getting a little frightened. >> meteorologist bill karins is tracking the storm and, bill, what do we have to be most worried about around the country today? >> for any flash flooding concerns in new england we're
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starting to clear it out in a lot of the big cities from d.c. to philadelphia and baltimore. and a half hour from now it will just be showers and light drizzle and long island getting heavy rains and one of the major arteries headed to jfk airport is shut down because of flooding. a lot of people missing their flights and the airport delays are significant anyway, even if you can get there. boston, you haven't seen any rain from this storm system and all the rain off to your west and some storms making their way along worcester and the 495 loop. here's how it looks at the airports. three-hour delays if you try to get into ludwardia. hour and a half at jfk and newark had a lot of cancellations. rainfall totals impressive. five inches in d.c., five in philadelphia and little over three inches in new york city and that rain still yet to come in boston. chris, thankfully, the weekend looks fantastic, pretty much coast to coast.
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all the big, bad weather is gone. >> we were waiting for that, thank you, bill. what do you have to do in the meantime? what if you have to drive in this mess? richard lui joins us now and i don't know anyone that hasn't had that heartstopping moment where you're driving and you suddenly feel that loss of control and then your brain goes into overdrive, what do you do? >> you think you're a good driver and you're used to this because it happens every year. first thing to do according to aaa, take action. four in ten people do absolutely nothing to avoid these accidents. and it's pretty simple. just steer where you want your car to go and do not slam on the brakes because it upsets the balance of your car. now, on the prevention side, the key here quiz your loved ones on these sorts of questions because it's always been said every seedse e seedsen, but you need to remind them of these things. at which speed can even a new tire lose traction? >> they just put it up, 35 miles per hour. thank you, graphics.
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>> it is 35 miles per hour. that's not very fast. even a new tire will start to lose traction. let me ask you this question and hopefully won't put up the answer as of yet. at what point of speed will you have complete disengagement from a road and your tire? guess what that would be. >> when it happened to me, it is on the highway, it is faster than that. >> 65 miles per hour. these are two numbers you can quiz your loved ones. you can do this when you're having dinner or what have you. when the emergencies happen we have this in our mind. i have a number for you geeks out there, not implying nat you are a geek, chris, but you're very, very smart. you are amazed at how hard our tires have to work. if there is half an inch of water sitting on the ground, your tire has to displace this much water in one second. one second and has to displace a gallon of water. now, if it's an inch, that's mean it's twice this amount. so, you can see, this is quite a
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dynamic. low tire pressure allow the threads here to collapse and, therefore, not being able to displace all this water as you're driving down the road each and every second. key point here is keep the sort of driving tips in your mind. if you want to check them out, aaa has them, as well. >> great information, thank you. ecuador under a state of siege after ecuadorian troops had to rescue the president there. rafael correa from the hospital. charges of an attempted after protests by police and some members of the military led to nationwide unrest in ecuador. at least three people were killed. insurgents did manage to shut down airports a s and block highways. the president said it was the saddest day of his life. this video next, unbelievable. a car plunging 300 feet off a
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mountain in peru. it landed in this raging river and all five people inside managed to survive. rescuers climbed down that mountain and lowered rope to the victims and pull them to safety and then get them back up the mountain. remarkable story. a stunning disclosure from the u.s. government about medical experiments the u.s. conducted on unknowing patients back in the 1940s. today officials that very highest level of government are set to apologize. robert bazell is chief science and health correspondent has some exclusive details. there were literally jaws dropping in the newsroom when we heard about this. >> this is a horrible story, chris. of course, we have to remember medical ethics maybe had a different slant in the 1940s and a lot of regulations in place now. even with that in mind, it's very, almost unbelievable that this kind of thing can happen. from 1946 to 1948, the u.s. public health service intentionally infected metal patients and other people in
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guatemala with the germs that cause venereal disease with gonorrhea and syphilis. they injected it in to all the arts parts of their bodies, including their spine. this today led to an apology. this was discovered by an academic named susan weatherby when she was going through archives that were completely hidden and forgotten. and today, just now, secretaries hillary clinton and kathleen sebelius issued a statement apologizing on behalf of the u.s. government for this thing that happened more than 40 years ago and saying even more steps will be taken to see it doesn't happen again. it inevitably raises questions with the syphilis experiment where hundreds of african-american men were told they were being treated for syphilis, but, in fact, treatment was withheld from them. this is different in the sense that it was carried out in a different country, but by some of the same group of people who were studied venereal diseases
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after the second world war. >> bob, thank you so much. >> thank you. a desperate search for guidance on the internet. new information today about what exactly what was going on with that rutgers university student from the time he found out his sexual encounter was broadcast online to the day he committed suicide. plus, a new kind of tourist attraction. it's in the heart of lebanon. the theme park of terrorism. check out the smackdown on the "jersey shore." snooki throws down and the outcome is not pretty. [ animals calling ] ♪ [ pop ] [ man ] ♪ well, we get along ♪ yeah, we really do - ♪ and there's nothing wrong - [ bird squawks ] ♪ with what i feel for you ♪ i could hang around till the leaves are brown and the summer's gone ♪
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it can be a private place for anonymous thoughts or the most public arena where all secrecy breaks down. in the case of tyler clementi the rutgers student that killed himself the internet was both.
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in18-year-old may have sought advice in a gay chatroom after realizing that his private sexual encounter had been streamed online by his roommate. broadcasting that without clementi's knowledge is not just alleged violence of privacy but a hate crime. this has touched off, mike, nationdle bai national debate. i can only imagine what's happening on that campus. >> the consequences of this have really swept the rutgers campus. one of the fraternities is calling this black friday and inviting other students to come over here and pick up flowers and buy flowers to raise money for the family of tyler clementi and write condolence letters to the family. as the newspaper put it this morning the students here ashamed, furious and, of course, heartbroken over what has happened.
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as you put it before, this just isn't cyberbullying but cybergay bashing because the sexual encounter that was videotaped and streamed over the internet was involving another man. you also pointed out that he had gone to it himself, tyler clementi had just in days before he jumped off the george washington bridge what the roommate was doing with him, spying on his web cam and deciding he would go to his r.a., resident adviser and ask for his change of room mates. he didn't do that and the next day he jumped to his death off the george washington bridge into the hudson. the district attorney has put out a statement saying that he is now exploring whether bias had a part in this crime and if it did, if it is proven at trial, that could increase the maximum sentence for each of the two suspects under arrest now from five years to ten years. sad story on this campus. as you can see, the memorials will continue and continue through the weekend, as well.
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chris? >> absolutely heartbreaking. mike, thank you. i want to talk to dan abrams. stephen, let me start with you, you were the first person i was hearing call it for it to be examined as a hate crime, why? >> it is a hate crime. new jersey's hate crimes law very specifically incompasses new jersey's separate law covering invasion of privacy. the law could not be clearer. and the hate crimes here law not only covers invasion of privacy, but invasion of privacy that might involve a victim's sexualorisexual orientati orientation. it was perfectly clear. >> dan s the law perfectly clear? >> it's perfectly clear that it's subject, that the hate crime law can be applicable in this kind of crime. meaning that you basically have two types of crimes that are being charged here. one, the lesser crime, which is the fourth degree felony, which
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is for filming. the more severe crime. >> which even at that could be five years in prison, isn't it? >> that one up to 18 months. but for the third degree felony which is the more severe of the crimes, that's for distributing it. that's the one where the prosecutors may decide to seek this sentencing enhancement in effect, which would be under new jersey's hate crime law. that would mean rather than just up to five years, they could be punishable up to ten years. now, it's not quite that simple, though. there has to be proof that the intent was to intimidate based on sexual orientation. >> typically, how would you find that? would you be investigating? >> it would be totality of the circumstances. you look at what this person had said in the past and what have we learned about why he did it? it has to be more than a prank. it has to be that, in effect, he did this because of the sexual orientation. look -- >> would he have broadcast it if it was a sexual encounter
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between a man and a woman? >> right. >> if he would have, then it's not a hate crime. >> not necessarily. not quite that clear cut, but basically, that's the guiding principal to look at here. which is did he do this, did he try to humiliate this guy because of his sexual orientation? if that's the case, then prosecutors would seek this enhancement, which could make the penalty much more severe. >> stephen, big picture, nine out of ten gay, lesbian and by sexual students are bullied. other findings show that they are as much as four times as likely to attempt suicide. so, what's not being done? is there something that there can be done in high schools or in college campuses? >> well, first, the laws across the country are incredibly weak. 44 states have anti-bullying laws. and i would submit to you that
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44 states have weak anti-bullying laws that give massive, massive latitude to school districts and schools to do as they see fit or as they don't see fit to regulate school bullying. you know, martin luther king once said that the law cannot change a heart, but that the law can restrain the heartless. and, indeed, our laws in this country need to start doing it. the laws are terrible. >> new jersey's laws are actually tougher than the federal law, meaning that the standard is lower in effect in new jersey to seek this, this hate crime sentencing addition. that it would be under federal law. some people are saying, what happens if new jersey decides not to move forward, could the feds -- it's not going to happen. it's not going to happen because new jersey's law is tougher than the federal law. >> and, dan, you're right, it's not just hate crimes laws that we're talking about. we're talking about specifically anti-bullying laws.
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new jersey's hate crime law is actually quite effective but in terms of preventing these tragedies from starting in the first place versus penalizing them only. 14 states have extremely weak anti-bullying laws. when that law is weak -- >> but this is bullying in my view. this really isn't about bullying. this is about committing a criminal act with regard to privacy and the new jersey law on this is very clear and, as is the hate crime law, which is why the prosecutors will have to really investigate, figure out what dowe have here and not base this decision base on emotion and not base this decision based on political pressure but say to themselves, do we have the additional evidence? they're already going to charge them with something here. the question is, do they want to move forward with charging them with something more? that's going to depend on the facts. >> i tell you, great discussion. i wish we had more time. maybe you can come back next week because this is not going to go away, this is an important story. >> thank you so much.
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nato after helicopter gunship killed three pakistani soldiers. pakistan filed a formal complaint today and, meantime, growing controversy over cell phone video that appears to show pakistani troops executing blindfolded civilians. the pakistani military suggests that the video was staged to discredit them. one u.s. official said there are things that you can fake and things you can't fake, you can't fake this. meantime, a theme park that features barbed wires and life-size statues of guerilla fighters and mortar rounds is turning out to be a success. hezbollah opened that park dedicated to military victories against israel and more than half a million tourists have gone to this $4 million complex since its grand opening in may. children get their pictures taken on tanks. they can turn on a machine gun, they can buy hats and t-shirts, which promote hezbollah which,
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of course, the u.s. state department team deems a terrorist organization. the tea party republican candidate for governor of new york is defending his confrontation with a new york post reporter. paladino tells new york one the "post" crossed the line when they sent him to track down his 10-year-old daughter that he fathered out of wedlock. paladino said that was misinterpreted. >> i have been using that phrase since the beginning of the campaign. i said i'm going to take out the trash, and take out this government and, likewise, mr. dicker and anybody else in the press who seemed to think that they could come out and bird dog for mr. cuomo. >> in that interview, paladino backed away from allegations that his democratic rival, andrew cuomo had extra marital affairs in the past saying he only wanted cuomo's personal
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life to be under the same amount of scrutiny as his own. let's talk more about this. good morning, good to see you. >> good morning, chris. we'll talk more about the angry politicians but first about rahm emanuel, your white house insider who knows a lot about how this works. what is this going to mean? is this a big deal for this white house? >> first of all, it's a big loss. he is essentially responsible with the president getting most of the credit, but rahm emanuel is centrally responsible for the strategy that got for the first time in american history and national health care passed and actually despite everyone's characterization a version of public health care and rahm emanuel's ability to be pragmatic and get things done is going to be missed in this white house. i always thiso think he is goin the next mayor of chicago. >> will pete rouse make
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democrats happy. >> >> he is a progressive democrat just like rahm emanuel. progressive that want to get things done and work with republicans and purests that would rather lose than get something done. i think pete rouse, barack obama, rahm emanuel and myself are part of the liberal movement wanting to get things done. there are enihilist parts ouf our base and many said we don't want any health care bill at all without the public option and they didn't speak for the 33 million people who had no insurance, they probably had insurance when they took that position. >> we will say, i don't think many people will disagree with this, rouse has a much calmer demeanor. most people have a calmer demeanor than rahm emanuel. i have to ask you, i have been covering political campaigns for decades now and every year, every four years, every two years we say it's the worst it's ever been, it's the most negative campaigning we've ever been, but i will say this, lanny, i don't know when i've
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seen so many politicians who are just so angry and anger is really a component of their campaign. can i just play for you a little set of clips from some of what is going on this campaign season and then i want to ask you about it. >> i'll take you out, buddy. >> you're going to take me out? how are you going to do that? >> watch. >> i come out swinging! is the. >> gentleman will observe regular order and sit down! >> it's people who raise their voices and yell and scream like you that are dividing this country. we're here to bring this country together. >> look, you don't have to be a pollster to know how angry americans are even though the polls do show those numbers. but how angry is too angry and are you surprised by some of what you're seeing? >> not really. i don't think it's that unusual. if we were all alive in 1795 or '96 and we heard alexander hamilt
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hamilton, they hated each other. i mean, literally hated each other. and they're the two great founders of our country. so, what's made things worse, quite frankly, is the internet, the youtube and the fact that we have 24/7 cable and really we have pollerization that is not quite bad. but the emotion that we're seeing is probably being magn y magnified because the media and youtube put it around the world in seconds. >> it's good to see you, thanks for coming on. >> have me back. >> i would love to, thanks. it's interesting he talks about polarization and youtube and the media and just really the difficulties that we're seeing in this society. his parents say that 13-year-old was bullied to death just because he was different. asher brown was in eighth grade at a houston suburban school and his parents tell a heartwrenching story that other children picked on him because he had a lisp and he liked to
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read and he didn't wear the most stylish clothes and then he shot himself with his father's gun. thank you very much for being with us. i know this is very difficult. amy, the night before asher took his life you asked him if he was okay and he said, yes. did he indicate to you that things were getting worse at school because you knew there were some problems, right? >> yes, ma'am. he did not initially indicate to us, the school system or the school itself had just come back in to session the day he died it was one month to the day. we didn't realize that they essentially picked up where they left off the year before. >> and you've said he was different. how so? >> he was unique. he was a little more sensitive than possibly some of the other students. he loved to read, so, you know, he was a little bit of a book worm. he was just different. >> and i know that you said you were aware of the bullying and
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that he had been teased at school for those things that you just mentioned. what did you do? how did you try to make school officials aware of what was going on? >> first, to have him go to school and tell his teachers what happened and when that didn't help, i went up there to try to talk to the teachers. and nothing was ever resolved with that. >> what did they say to you because it's just hard to sort of fathom that. >> it was unbelievable. even when we went up there the monday after he had died, they even told us, we don't punish bullies. this is the principal, i can't pronounce her last name. another lady, kelly, the eighth grade counselor she said we don't punish bullies here because it makes me feel uncomfortable and awkward. >> when their parents come up and they're angry that their child was pupshed f epaunsh pun their behavior that makes her uncomfortable. >> she gave us reasons, excuses why bullies are accepted there. >> we did ask the school
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district and in a statement to nbc news they said, you never contacted them about asher being bullied however you did contact asher's counselor who alerted his teachers and the assistant principal about a significant emotional struggle within the family. what's your response to that? >> that's a lie. we took the correct courses and the correct protocol in terms of reporting what was going on. she contacted the school when my oldest son, he had to be hospitalized, he's fine now, we just didn't want him falling through the cracks. we had to notify the school to keep an eye on him and apparently they didn't. >> whatever happened and the school may say one thing, it's hardbreaking. it's absolutely heartbreaking. what would you say to parents who are watching this right now? is there advice that you can give them because, you know what, kids can be really mean and for a sensitive child, you know, for some kids it's just not fun and it's uncomfortable
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but for a sensitive kid it could be much worse. what would you say to other parents? >> communication. >> i think communication is the key. what i've said before, you know, if they tell you they're fine, but you get that gut instinct as a parent, push past the i'm fine. make sure that you really know what's going on in your child's life. we did not realize at the time that this happened that these things were taking place. a lot has come out since he's passed to help us try to piece together the hours before our son took his life. for the parents, you know, you just have to do everything you possibly can to ensure your child's safety. >> i know this is extraordinarily difficult for you, but for you to come on and maybe someone to hear that and you'll never know if you're able to save another family from what you've gone through. amy, david both for coming on. [ male announcer ] if you have type 2 diabetes,
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we've got a preview for you of a new series starting this weekend right here on msnbc. vegas under cover raw. it's not the glitzy, glamorous vegas strip we all know about, it's just the opposite. the gritty underworld buzzing with criminal activity. chris hanson and his team spent more than a year following a lot of these sting operations and, chris, fascinating stuff. tell me about what you found. >> you know, there is a whole subcommunity in las vegas that gets up every morning and looks for crimes to commit. that's how they make their living. knowing this, we were able to get unprecedented access in a series of undercover and hidden camera investigations and it is amazing what we're able to find. >> let's take a look. we have a little clip here and we'll talk about it coming out. >> alicia gets brought into this by her boyfriend, brad. when brad gets arrested and put
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in jail on those unrelated charges, she sort of takes over his place in this whole operation. she's now the one who's bringing in the stolen cars and encouraging other car thieves to bring the cars into the fencing operation. >> well, yeah, i'm fine. >> you sure? >> you have some issues the last couple days. i mean, i don't know, i don't get mad at brad for always running around or something. but it seems like i got out and he's still in there, now i'm the one doing all the running around and trying to get everything else and trying to get money. and it's just ridiculous. >> are you working right now? >> i never had a job in my life. >> shut up. how old are you? >> 21. >> you never had a job ever? >> no. >> in the bar, subway, nothing? >> i never had to.
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>> cool. >> to hear alicia tell it, you know, she's just doing a favor for some friends, basically. some friends have some cars and they want to sell the cars and she knows about this operation through her boyfriend brad and she's the middle person, if you will, the middleman who will bring the parties together so they can do this together. >> so, tell us just sort of give us the pitch about this because i'm fascinated. i have always been fascinated by the whole concept of gambling and what else happens and the diversity. this even looks scary, chris. >> it was scary. basically what the intelligence officers did. they set up a store front and on the other side it made it look like they sold stereo equipment and they put the word on the street that it was an uperation. we even had a guy who came in and showed how to counterfeit $100 bills.
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all on our hidden cameras. >> all right, you can watch a lot more. the premiere of "vegas undercover raw." dateline's chris hanson, always great to see you. thank you for coming in. >> my pleasure. now something that had us all gasping in the msnbc newsroom. we were talking about last night's season premiere of "o30 rock." another brilliant cameo by brian williams that liz lemon was having an affair. but wait for the draw dropping from andrea mitchell. >> and we have this just in to us, richie and liz spotted in tree, eyewitnesses report k-i - k-i-s-s- k-i-s-s-i-n-g. for more les let's go to andrea mitche mitchell. >> thank you, brian. best cameo ever, right?
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>> great. and the lovely ladies from "jersey shore" pull out the claws for the cat fight of the week. it was budding author snooki taking on house mate angelina. just watch how it all starts. >> i want you all to know that i can't stand any of yous. all of you! >> okay. >> oh, yeah, this is what's up. this is what's up. ♪ we keep it gangster >> i'm going to leave this house right now! >> you want to guess what the fight was over, don? >> what, chris? >> a guy. >> a dpi. >> are you shocked? states and towns are tightening their budgets and the trickle down effect is hitting our con's schools but just how much does it cost school districts to educate our children? we'll look at the price tag and whether money really makes a
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300 bucks a pop, that's what they'll charge you if you want your ad there and they think it will get $15,000 to $24,000 in extra revenue and then i don't have to buy all that candy from our producer that just goes sfrat to the hips, right? >> straight to the hips. the recession means that school officials everywhere are facing tighter budgets and looking for ways to raise money, cut spending, but where is all the money going? here's what some school districts said they spent per pupil in 2009, but a recent study found the actual numbers
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are really actually much higher and most schools just don't want you to know what they really spend each year on your child's education. adam schaefer is a policy analyst at the kato institute. you looked at 18 school districts and you said some of the school's did their best to try to hide their per pupil costs. why? >> to be fair, i don't have the motivation of these individual school districts or the budget officers that publishes information. what is clear is that they're leaving a whole lot of money off the books. i think there is a lot of reasons for that. one, clearly, is to argue for more money. every year we hear there is a budget crisis. even during good times they say they don't have enough. and, clearly, they have plenty to spend. we're spending about $13,000 per student on average in this country. >> if we look at school districts that spends more and spends less, does it pay off in terms of higher test scores or
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higher graduation rates. . >> it certainly doesn't. if you look around, some of the highest spending districts in the country are doing the worst. d.c., d.c. public schools spend around $28,000 per student and they're doing horribly. new jersey, the very bad school districts in new jersey spend upwards of $25,000 per student. these are districts that are failing. l.a. is spending in 2008, they budgeted $30,000, nearly $30,000 per student. they said they only had $10,000 per student, but we can see where some of this goes with the $500 million school they're building. a lot goes to waste on unnecessary personnel and other issues. >> taxpayers and parents to think about. adam schaefer, thank you. i'm chris jansing along with richard lui and we will see you back here monday, 10:00 a.m. for the debut of "jansing and
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company." >> an absolute a lot of fun. >> we will have great guests and regulars on the show and tamron hall will still be here with us. >> i will always be with you. >> how are you feeling? >> coming up, we have a lot of news including the unbelievable admission. two top administration officials are saying that a top secret medical experiment carried out by the united states actually happened. there is apologies for it and we are waiting for the big announcement from the white house. in a few minutes, president obama is expected to officially announce the departure of rahm emanuel. we'll bring you that breaking news right here on msnbc. shippe. saved ourselves the hassle. i'm not too sure about this. look at this. [ security agent ] right. you never kick off with sales figures. kicking off with sales figures! i'm yawning. i'm yawning some more. aaaaaaaand... [ snores ] i see your point. yeah. [ snores ]
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